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Solve This Math Question And Win A Romantic Evening With Miss Loi!

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Singapore Flyer Night View
Oh what an evening in prospect.

In her excitement, one of Miss Loi’s students booked and paid for 4 x tickets for the 6 April (this coming Sunday) 9pm slot on the Singapore Flyer for she and her friends.

Since best friends are usually the best in flying aeroplanes at the last minute, it’s no surprise that she’s now desperately turning to Miss Loi for help, after two of her friends have pulled out of this little outing, and none of her other friends wants to lose a chunk of their pocket money are free to take their places.

Seeing that the introductory offer period is about to end soon And thus in a massive display of compassion, Miss Loi promises to buy the two extra tickets from her student (even though she had just ridden on another ferris wheel not too long ago), provided she can find another person to go with her.

But sadly, none of Miss Loi’s friends are free that evening too, as they’re all occupied with important stuffs like mahjong, EPL etc.

Anyway while Twittering this morning, NTT suggested holding a math contest on this blog. After seeing some early signs of enthusiasm and prompting, here we go …

* * *

Knowing that it takes a certain level of mathematical competency to be able to engage her in some meaningful conversation during the flight (like working out the geometric distance to some landmark), Miss Loi hereby propose that the *first person to answer correctly the following question:

Square within an equilateral triangle

In an equilateral triangle ABC, AB = 12 units. On vertex of a square lies at the midpoint of AB, with the adjacent vertices lying on the other two sides of the triangle.

The length of a side of the square may be expressed as

p√2 + q√6,

where p and q are rational numbers.

Find the values of p and q.

shall get to spend a romantic evening on the Singapore Flyer with her, where together we’ll be soaring high above the magnificent Singapore skyline, enjoying the cool night breeze, solve a math problem or two, and maybe even spot The Temple in the distance!

Moreover, you’ll have the dubious honour of being the first mortal from the blogosphere (apart from her students & their parents) to ever lay eyes on Miss Loi’s divine face … umm … if that really means anything.

NOTES:

This question is taken from a math workshop attended by (coincidentally) the same student, where the trainer was allegedly going so fast like a toot toot train, oblivious to the blank stares from the entire class.

Its kind is too mind-stimulating to EVER appear in the TYS, but this might help you in your upcoming Mids where anything can happen - especially with sadistic teachers out to exact revenge on students who gave them a torrid time in Semester I.

Lastly, this same question also managed to stump a GEP student - though in all due respect he was in a big, big hurry to get back to his DotA game.

P.S. To the student: Don’t say Miss Loi never try to help you har …

* Miss Loi reserves the right to reject any candidate whom she believes to be of dubious background, even though he/she might have answered the question correctly.

** Automatically disqualified: all students (and their immediate friends) who’d gone through this question in her class, the math workshop trainer, and cheekopeks who ask their school-going relatives to do the question on their behalf.

*** Do note that all visitors are to arrive at the Singapore flyer half an hour before their slot time.

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45 Comments

  1. 1


    2008
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    1:57PM
    FoxTwo says,

    Waahhh so many disclaimers one!

  2. 2


    2008
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    2:02PM
    WishBoNe says,

    Ok, I’m guessing FoxTwo is part of one of the disclaimers. :P

  3. 3


    2008
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    2:14PM
    xinyun says,

    wah…
    nvm, i thought it was gonna be easy and i could meet our dear ping.sg lao shi… :P

  4. 4


    2008
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    3:40PM
    ignorantsoup says,

    Haiz.. If can get 2 tickets then I try..haha..lazy to think too much!

  5. 5


    2008
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    5:24PM
    Miss Loi avatar Miss Loi says,

    *Sneaks a peek and shakes head at all the non-attempts*

    HINTS:

    Whenever one sees surds and trigonometry and geometry together in one question, this should serve as a cue for you to recall your special angles:

    45o 60o 30o
    sin 1/sqrt{2} sqrt{3}/2 1/2
    cos 1/sqrt{2} 1/2 sqrt{3}/2
    tan 1 √3 1/sqrt{3}

    And when special angles come into play in a diagram like this, students must instinctively get to know the bigfoot Ah Soh of all trigonometric ratios known as TOA CAH SOH.

    And since trigo ratios are derived from right-angled triangles, students must instinctively know how to first slice the diagram into as many right-angled triangles as deemed necessary.

    *Runs away for tuition*

  6. 6


    2008
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    5:52PM
    FoxTwo says,

    smc, the moment you put a non-number base question here, automatically I fail leow, no need to pass GO, no need to collect $200.

    So, since I can’t solve it, what else can I do? tok kok lor! :D

  7. 7


    2008
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    7:11PM
    Someone says,

    p=9
    q=-3

    sine rule would have been more convenient though…

  8. 8


    2008
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    7:19PM

    I look at the ‘condition’ & I know I am not up to ’standard’ already!
    But I am sure u have no problem finding partner to spend the weekend with u!
    Have a nice day!

  9. 9


    2008
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    8:20PM
    fearclif says,

    ROAR ! soooo difficult =D

  10. 10


    2008
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    9:51PM
    Stanleyliew says,

    WAH!!! The question so “keng” wan. Questions in Malaysia don’t sound that hard….

    Btw, thx for dropping by my site!

  11. 11


    2008
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    11:05PM
    Daphne Maia says,

    Headlines on ST, 02 Apr 08:

    “Hello Kitty commits suicide!
    – Hello Kitty jumps off Bukit Timah cliff in despair. Papers with Maths workings found on summit.”

  12. 12


    2008
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    11:46PM
    precious says,

    Now we know Miss Loi’s number one criteria for a date. Must be able to solve mathematical problems!

  13. 13


    2008
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    5:51AM
    Mgccl says,

    \frac{sin(\frac{\pi}{3})}{6}=\frac{sin(\frac{5\pi}{12})}{x}
    p=9
    q=-3
    law of sin… easy question…
    really… get this blog to use LaTeX instead of phpmathpublisher. LaTeX is the industrial standard for math equation formatting. It’s not that hard… you can leech from wordpress with a simple code…

  14. 14


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    7:50AM
    Tianhong says,

    is it 6? just a guess.

  15. 15


    2008
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    7:56AM
    Tianhong says,

    arrrgh too difficult le. maybe i can try to program something out and get the answer.

  16. 16


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    9:16AM
    WishBoNe says,

    I think Miss Loi has found her date.

  17. 17


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    9:24AM
    Mgccl says,

    oh nose… Someone(The name is actually Someone… guess there is no way to find who he is.) had the answer before me!

    but maybe I’m the only identifiable person.
    muhahahahaha. I’m so going to blog about this.

    now I just have to find a way to get to Singapore…

  18. 18


    2008
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    9:29AM
    ClappingTree says,

    Hmmm…. is this an April Fools’ Day joke?

    Anyway, my math is rusty and my brain sluggish today. Good luck to all who try in hope. :-)

  19. 19


    2008
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    4:46PM
    Dhope says,

    Wow, mgccl looks correct… So is Miss Loi going on hot date? Take more photos!!! I heard it’s really beautiful once nightfalls.

  20. 20


    2008
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    6:32PM
    Someone says,

    If you used the sine rule, you would have to use the sin(x+y) forumula to reduce to the surds though…

  21. 21


    2008
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    10:45PM
    La Papillion says,

    Alright, I don’t know how to use the maths equation thingy…so here goes:

    Let x be the side of the square

    If we halve the triangle vertically, then look at the triangle bounded by the side of the square (x), the base of the equilateral triangle (6) and part of the side of the equilateral triangle (the side with total length of 12), and taking sine rule,

    6/sin75° = x/sin60°

    but sin 75°
    = sin (45°+30°)
    = sin 45° cos 30° + cos 45° sin 30°
    = [sqrt (6) + sqrt (2)]/4

    putting it all in,

    x= 9 sqrt(2) - 3sqrt(6)

    thus p = 9 and q = -3

    Quite fun, any more such questions Miss Loi? :)

  22. 22


    2008
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    12:28AM
    Miss Loi avatar Miss Loi says,

    Wow Miss Loi is so touched by all your response *sob*

    First to reply all …

    Xinyun: As you can see from the answers here, it’s not very difficult leh … just need to recall your basic AMaths knowledge.

    WishBoNe: Who? Who???

    FoxTwo: So Miss Loi take it that you’re requesting for questions from the Numbers chapter? e.g. LCM, HCF? ;)

    HAM: ‘Conditions’ aside, you’ll be in Singapore this weekend meh?

    fearclif: You’re in Sec 3 right? Miss Loi believes some of the trigo stuff hasn’t been taught to you yet. Maybe you can learn something here to show off to your ‘cher & classmates (provided they’re not foreign cyborgs) :P

    Stanley: Looking at some of the cyborgs ASEAN scholars here, many have the perception that Malaysian math standards are lagi keng!

    Hello Kitty DON’T JUMP!!! WORKINGS STILL CARRY MARKS!!!!

    Precious: You’re absolutely right. Miss Loi is sooo looking forward to solve some math problems with her date during the ride. Else it’ll be really boring isn’t it?

    MGCCL: You’re back! You just made Miss Loi realise that she’d forgotten to put the disclaimer about transportation costs not included.

    And … ummm … actually LaTeX has been installed here since the beginning - you just need to enclose your LaTeX code with [tex][tex] (which has been done for you) and your beautiful expression will magically appear. This wasn’t stated since Miss Loi doesn’t want to confuse readers with too many options/syntax.

    Tianhong: Wei NUS comp science calibre - you should know! Miss Loi’s faculty is just next door!

    ClappingTree:

    Dhope: Umm … actually mgccl’s not the first … even if he is, not sure if he can get here by this Sunday.

    Wah Papillion! Nice workings! Welcome to Jφss Sticks and thanks for your interest in dating Miss Loi mathematics! Mids are coming = expect more questions (provided readers come and solve them)!

    Meanwhile if you browse through the AMaths and EMaths categories you’ll find a number of questions still unsolved ;)

    Ok now with regards to the solution and results …

  23. 23


    2008
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    8:42AM
    peewee says,

    i’m concerned whether the capsule will roll off the spindle while it’s at the peak?

    i’m terrified of heights!

  24. 24


    2008
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    2:37PM
    FoxTwo says,

    NooOoOo I suck at maths!!

    Even if you did, it’ll be too late for this weekend anyway heheheh!

  25. 25


    2008
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    3:52PM
    Miss Loi avatar Miss Loi says,

    This question involves a student’s understanding of Trigonometry and Surds basics.

    As mentioned, when you see a surd expression in a trigo question like this, it almost always involve trigo special angles - usually no calculators required ;)

    Since the question asks for p and q within the surd expression of the side of the square, your approach should be to 1) express the length of the side in surd form using all your trigo prowess, and then 2) equate it to p√2 + q√6.

    First of all do know that each interior angle of an equilateral triangle is 60o (duuuh!).

    So let the side of the square be x.

    Solution Diagram to the trigonometry surd problem

    Using Sine Rule

    As pointed out by Someone, MGCCL and Papillion, the quickest way would be to use the Sine Rule taught in your Sec 3 EMaths (and discussed here)

    And as Papillon pointed out, drawing a vertical line CD will bisect ∠FDE ⇒ ∠CDE = ∠EDB = 90o/2 = 45o.

    So you can form the following expresson for Δ BDE:

    x/{sin 60^o} = 6/{sin 75^o}

    And as Someone pointed out, sin 75o = sin (45o+30o) and using the Addition Formula from your AMaths New Syllabus:

    sin(A+B) = sin A cos B + cos A sin B

    ⇒ sin (45o+30o) = sin 45o cos 30o + cos 45o sin 30o

    And using the values from the special angle chart,
    sin 75^o = {sqrt{3}+1}/{2sqrt{2}}
    x/{sqrt{3}/2} = 6/{{sqrt{3}+1}/{2sqrt{2}}}

    x = {6 sqrt{3}sqrt{2}}/{sqrt{3}+1} = {6 sqrt{6}}/{sqrt{3}+1} since you should know that √ab = √ab

    Using Trigo Ratios

    But not everyone has been taught about the Addition Formula above (esp those retaking the Old Syllabus this year), and these unfortunate group of people will have to find x via trigo ratios - a little more tedious.

    When it comes to trigo ratios, you often need to slice your diagram into as many right-angled triangles you’ll need to achieve your answer.

    Using Pythagoras Theorem,
    AC2 = AD2 + CD2CD = √[122 - 62] = √108

    But CD = OC + OD

    From the diagram,
    cos 45^o = OD/x doubleright OD = x/sqrt{2}
    sin 45^o = OF/x doubleright OF = x/sqrt{2}
    tan 60^o = OC/OF doubleright OC = {x sqrt{3}}/sqrt{2}

    sqrt{108} = {x sqrt{3}}/{sqrt{2}} + {x/sqrt{2}}

    x = {sqrt{2}sqrt{108}}/{sqrt{3}+1} = {sqrt{216}}/{sqrt{3}+1} = {sqrt{36} sqrt{6}}/{sqrt{3}+1} = {6 sqrt{6}}/{sqrt{3}+1}

    Which is the SAME expression you get using the sine rule method.

    * * *

    Now seeing surds at the denominator of a fraction, any AMaths student will know intuitively that you have to rationalise your surd.

    i.e.

    x = {{6 sqrt{6}}/{sqrt{3}+1}} * {{sqrt{3} -1}/{sqrt{3} -1}}

    Time to play around with your √ab = √ab once more, to bring out the √2!

    x = {6 sqrt{6} sqrt{3} - 6 sqrt{6}}/{3-1}
    x = 3 sqrt{6} sqrt{3} - 3 sqrt{6}
    x = 3 sqrt{18} - 3 sqrt{6}
    x = 3 sqrt{9}sqrt{2} - 3 sqrt{6}
    x = 9 sqrt{2} - 3 sqrt{6}

    So p = 9 and q = -3 ;)

    Congratulations to Someone, MGCCL and Papillon for getting it right! Miss Loi knows that all of you are Level 99 math gurus, but please understand that this is just a humble blog dealing with O-Level Maths (read 13-16 year old Singaporean students) - so please bear with her if you find the problems and explanations here too basic for your liking.

    As for the rest, hope that you’ve learnt something from Miss Loi’s April Fools Day question ;)

  26. 26


    2008
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    6:47PM
    Mgccl says,

    level 99? nice :)

    nooooo..
    you destroyed my dreams… for a second there I thought math can get girls…
    maybe it’s time for me to try physics for a change…

  27. 27


    2008
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    7:00PM
    Someone says,

    I see… I didn’t know the addition formula was taught in A maths now; I split the triangles:

    Someone's Solution Diagram

    x being the side closer to the 60deg and y being the side closer to the 45deg; c is the common opposite.
    x+y=6
    tan{60}=c/x
    tan{45}=c/y
    ytan{45}=c
    xtan{60}=c
    ytan{45}=xtan{60}=(6-y)tan{60}=6tan{60}-ytan{60}
    ytan{45}+ytan{60}=6tan{60}
    y(tan{45}+tan{60})=6tan{60}
    y={6 tan 60}/{tan 45 +tan 60}=9-3sqrt{3}

    The relationship between an isosceles right angle triangle of equal sides x and the hypotenuse h is h={sqrt{2}}x

    s={sqrt{2}}y=9sqrt{2}-3sqrt{6}

    I don’t like to ignore a mathematical challenge. Haha.

  28. 28


    2008
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    7:06PM
    Someone says,

    Opps. I somehow must have copied my equation twice. Haha.

  29. 29


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    9:20PM
    peewee says,

    OMG, all these equations are giving me nightmares!

    Miss Loi, you mean this question is for ‘O’ Levels standard now?

    I should have met you for tuition 13 years ago! I scored F9 for maths…

  30. 30


    2008
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    12:06PM
    La Papillion says,

    Haha, lvl 99 :)

    Like Someone, it’s hard to resist a good maths challenge :)

  31. 31


    2008
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    9:32PM
    Miss Loi avatar Miss Loi says,

    Mgccl: Physics? Nah … math girls are definitely sexier ;)

    Peeweeeeee: Actually O-Level questions tend to be a little easier and less involved, but all the concepts remain the same. But with the changing syllabus this year, nobody can be sure what’s coming out though.

    Your math result that bad meh? Were you a terminal stage LMBFH Syndrome sufferer?

    Ahhh Someone nicely done :D

    To be honest, Miss Loi spent a bit of time trying to figure out where’s your x, y, c etc, (it would have been easier if you’d said which triangle you were referring to!) so hope you don’t mind Miss Loi inserting a diagram in your comment for the benefit of readers :)

    Hope students can appreciate from this example that there can always be alternative approaches beyond what your teacher has taught you.

    Someone + Papillion: Something happened yesterday - let’s see if Miss Loi can make this into a math challenge ;)

  32. 32


    2008
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    Someone says,

    Is it just me, or when you enclose your equation with double { } it appears twice? I checked my previous equations, and it doesn’t appear that I typed it twice; instead, the equation rendered twice. Haha.

  33. 33


    2008
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    10:20PM
    peewee says,

    If you were my maths teacher, you could vomit blood teaching me. I scored 0/100 for my CAs…

    Haha…

  34. 34


    2008
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    11:34PM
    Miss Loi avatar Miss Loi says,

    Someone: Yes the additional { } appears to be the culprit. Anyway Miss Loi has taken the liberty to remove them for you ;)

    peewee: You have no idea how many liters of haemoglobin Miss Loi has produced through the years. Probably enough to fill a blood bank!

  35. 35


    2008
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    11:48AM
    tohkiatshengKEN says,

    honestly man, what the mama?! O.O

  36. 36


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    3:54PM
    FoxTwo says,

    Soooo…. after all these, you still haven’t announced who’s the lucky maths genius that gets to discuss the intricacies of maths with you on the Singapore Flyer….

    To the winnah - pls take lotsa pics ok? sneaky ones if you can :)

  37. 37


    2008
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    4:30PM
    peewee says,

    I remembered my teacher mentioning about having to ‘kill’ a black chicken each week to nourish back the ‘injury’ she’s sustained while teaching us (my class).

    Poor chickens…

  38. 38


    2008
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    1:00PM
    Miss Loi avatar Miss Loi says,

    Umm … FoxTwo … a bit late but …

    ClappingTree: Hmmm…. is this an April Fools’ Day joke?

    Miss Loi: …

  39. 39


    2008
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    5:17PM
    precious says,

    April Fool’s Joke?! I spent so much time persuading Nic to help me win a romantic date wif Miss Loi. Sighhh

  40. 40


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    7:46PM
    ignorantsoup says,

    Walau..thought teachers arn’t suppose to lie? lol..but miss loi is a sexy math tutor..now that’s different.. :P

  41. 41


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    8:45AM
    Miss Loi avatar Miss Loi says,

    Peewee: Miss Loi believes that your class has already graduated, since the population of black chickens is now flourishing.

    TOH KIAT SHENG!!! Made up with Julian already? Now so free to come here and leave silly comments huh?

    Precious: Huh? You should be spending the time on romantic dates with Nic instead!

    Soupie: Huh? Teachers cannot play April Fool’s? What a sad, sad profession if that’s really the case.

  42. 42


    2008
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    7:35PM
    Sam Windsor says,

    p=9
    q=-6

  43. 43


    2008
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    10:38AM
    Fred R says,

    Dear Miss Loi. I am too late to win the evening you spoke about in this article. However I am very interested in you. Intelligent women are the most beautiful. I am American Engineer. Will you marry me??!! :)

  44. 44


    2008
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    10:45AM
    Mgccl says,

    @Fred…
    If you didn’t already saw that this is an April fool’s joke that broke my innocent heart… READ THE COMMENTS.
    Oh… I thought math can get me a date. Guess I was wrong…

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    2008
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    9:13AM
    Miss Loi avatar Miss Loi says,

    Huh?! Fred + Mgccl, are you guys pals?

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